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Period 2 Only: Hans and Rosa

Liesel has settled into her new family, a motley crew of people not related to her but who all care about her. Consider some of the following questions:

  • How does Hans gain Liesel’s love and trust?
  • Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?
  • Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?
  • Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?
  • Who is in charge of the family?
  • How does Max fit into the Hubermann “family”?
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21 responses

  1. lol

    Are we suppose to answer all of the answers? and why do we have more then block 3? lol

    March 4, 2011 at 11:45 pm

  2. lol

    * are we suppose to answer all of the questions?

    March 4, 2011 at 11:55 pm

  3. Miko Zhang

    Hans gains her trust through the accordion. When Hans plays the accordion, Liesel feels calm and warm inside. Also, Hans teaches her how to read and write, which is very significant to Liesel. Liesel also mentions that Hans has eyes of silver and eyes which show gentleness and kindness. Hans was also there for Liesel whenever she had nightmares at night.

    In a way, Liesel is a replacement for Hans children. Hans children do not show the same warmth that Liesel shows for him. So Liesel is like a child that Hans has always wanted, but never had.

    It is difficult for Rosa because she doesn`t know how to show her warmth. She is a very stern woman and does not want to show her warm side because she sees it as a sigh of weakness.

    Rosa is not crude, brash, or bitter. She is in fact a very gentle and kind hearted woman. She only puts on a shell to hide her true feelings. She puts on this shell as a way of protection, perhaps because she doesn`t want to be hurt by others. There is for sure a different side to her, she showed this when she showed up at Liesels school to tell her that Max is awake. I believe that this side has always been there, just hidden deep inside her.

    I believe that Hans Hubermann is in charge of the family. Although Rosa has a very commanding and leader-like attitude, Hans is the one who makes all the decisions around the house.

    He fits into the Hubermann family through the warmth and accepting attitude of Hans and Rosa. Hans and Rosa treated him as one of their own, they did not ever contemplate that fact. They never doubted what they were doing for Max, they just did it naturally, as if Max has always been part of their family

    March 5, 2011 at 3:03 pm

  4. Justin W

    •How does Hans gain Liesel’s love and trust?
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    Hans teaches Liesel a lot of words and reading skills, Hans is not only Liesel’s father, but also her first teacher. Also he trust Liesel and told her that Max is a Jew, he can choose telling her a fake info about Max, but he didn’t. In this case, Hans showed enough trusting to Liesel, and thought Liesel is a family member.

    •Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?
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    No, I don’t think Liesel is a substitute for Hans’s children. Han never thinks Liesel is a substitute, and he is loving Liesel equally as loving his real children, even better than loving Hans Jr. Otherwise, he wouldn’t spend any time on teaching her or play with her.

    •Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?
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    By calling her “Saumensch”. Rosa is a rude woman with lots of bad languages. However, she won’t call anyone who is not family member as Saumensch. In other words, this a symbol of “rude love”. The different way of showing warmth toward Liesel.

    •Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?
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    I don’t think Rosa is a rude woman at all. Sometimes, she also shows her love to Liesel, shows her understanding to Hans. She supports the family with washing clothes and cooking meal, even the bean soup. When Hans took Max in, she didn’t oppose his choice, and thought many ways to support him. For Rosa, rudeness is a fake mask, under the mask, she is a gentle woman with love.
    •Who is in charge of the family?
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    Hans must be in charge of the family. He decided to take care Max and gamble on him. And Hans has lots of personality, he didn’t want to join Nazi party because he knew that Jewish aren’t enemy, they are friends. In this case, he took care of Max, and decided to against his destiny in German.

    •How does Max fit into the Hubermann “family”?
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    Max hides in Huberman’s basement, normally he won’t come to upper floor. His life is in dark, but better than die in Nazi’s hand. However, he still alive, and became friend with Liesel. He gave her some presents to Liesel, and teach her reading. I think Max loves Liesel, and he became a “undercover” family member of Huberman family

    (btw… im the 1st one answers those questions?)

    March 5, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    • Justin W

      nvm…

      Miko is the 1st lol

      March 5, 2011 at 3:11 pm

  5. JUAN

    1 I feel that that Hans gains Liesel’s trust from the beginning by playing a kind of good cop bad cop character, were he treats her well and Rosa is kind of aggressive, I also feel that by being silent and patient in his manner it kind of gives an air of peacefulness around him, plus she really never had a Dad figure to compare him to so he fits right in with her as the role of her father.
    2. I don’t think so I feel that Hans sees Liesel as one more of his children as the baby girl of the family.
    3. Its hard for Rosa to show her good feelings as when it comes to raising a child you need someone to be strict and actually induce some discipline.
    4. Yes there most certainly is a more caring, loving and warm side to her, I know this not only because the narrator mentions it at the beginning, but I’m sure we all have a Rosa in our life a person who you know they have a good side under that entire tough and rugged exterior.
    5. I believe the household if divided into 2 sections the house and the outside world, Rosa is in charge of the home while Hans is in charge of decision making.
    6.Max is a stranger, who has this image of being a risk, however i believe with the improvement of his relationship between him and Liesel he will become part of the family, as well as he also will in a way substitute Hans JR..

    March 5, 2011 at 8:48 pm

  6. Camb

    1. There isn’t one single way that Hans gains Liesel’s love and trust. He does it through a multitude of simple actions that Liesel was never able to experience. Hans is her calming figure. She knows that in her time of need, he will be there for her, that he’s always watching over her. He worked hard by teaching her to read and literally always being there for her to gain her trust and love. Even when he has to hit her, there is still love between them.

    2. I don’t believe Liesel is seen as a replacement. If she was a replacement for the other children, I would think it would be harder to love her but they do. She became part of the family and isn’t just an extra.

    3. In my opinion, Rosa is demonstrating warmth to Liesel but just in her own way. When she swears at her and calls her names and makes her do chores, she’s doing it in the most loving way possible. It’s just her personality to show her affection that way. She does have some moments of warmth though, like when she refrained from hitting Liesel on multiple occasions, they are just harder to notice.

    4. I guess I more or less answered this part with the question above. There is obviously another side to her if she so willingly hides a Jewish person and takes care of him in his time of need. She has her caring moments and in the desperate times they are seen more often but when she’s brash, she’s just being who she is.

    5. While it may appear that Rosa is “wearing the pants” in the relationship and the family, I think that Hans is in charge. He doesn’t always make the decisions but he eventually becomes the sole provider for the family and is usually the one making the decisions on the more important matters.

    6. Max was accepted into the family very similarly to the way Liesel was accepted in. The Hubermann’s are very caring for both and accept them both into the family. If anything, Max somewhat takes the place for Hans Jr. but I don’t believe they are trying to replace him, but just distract themselves from the falling out they had with him.

    March 6, 2011 at 12:24 am

  7. Ray L

    Hans gains Liesel’s love and trust by being there for her. When Liesel started a love affair with books. He would teach Liesel how to read and write. At night, he would comfort her during her nightmares. At Christmas and Liesel’s birthday, he would trade cigarettes for books to give them to Liesel.
    Liesel is definitely a substitute for Hans children because her foster parents had gained Liesel’s love and trust and vice versa. Hans and Rosa never trusted Hans Junior and Trudy. They are different than Rosa and Hans politically and as their children gotten older, they separate from the Hubermanns more and more. Therefore, Hans and Rosa treats Liesel as their child.
    It is hard for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth towards Liesel because she treats Liesel as her child. She has a rude attitude when talking to Liesel and Hans as well, because they’re her family. She is thankful when Liesel accepted in doing her job but just doesn’t express it. She is showing another kind of love towards Liesel.
    There is another side to Rosa. Her family and the narrator sees her as a good woman for a crisis. When Max arrived, she showed her non-aggressive side by being on the same page as Hans for the first time.
    Rosa is in charge of the family because she makes the right decisions. Liesel is now doing her ironing and washing because she knew her customers wouldn’t fire a little girl. When Max arrived, it was her that came up with good suggestions on what to do with Max. This is why the Hubermanns haven’t been caught yet because of Rosa.
    Max fits into the family really well. Hans and Rosa accepted him from the first day he arrived. He got used to living in the basement and does not complain on any decision the Hubermanns make. Therefore, the Hubermanns treated him as one of their own. His developing relationship with Liesel was another reason that he fitted in.

    March 6, 2011 at 12:31 pm

  8. Kratna

    1.How does Hans gain Liesel’s love and trust? I think that Liesel was in the most difficult part of her life, when she gets to the Hubermann’s house. At this point she had no one and Hans is the person who immediately opens his home to her. He is the one who is there for her. Like other people have said the comfort of the accordion plays a huge part in the growth and and development of their relationship. Another thing is the patience that Hans has towards Liesel, so much that he is able to teach her to read. So through his loving personality he is able to gain Liesel’s love and trust.
    2.Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?
    I think that she is a substitute for his children. Not only are they grown up,but in the case of his son he has grown to be completely different then his father. Liesel and Hans share reading and words, which is a cause of their strong relationship. I think that Liesel is like “the child he never had”.
    3.Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?
    I think that Rosa is not a bad person, but rather realistic person. Rosa’s biggest concern is getting by. She is more strict and has trouble showing her affection because she is preoccupied with making ends meat.
    4.Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?
    I think that Rosa is not a bad person, but the situation in which her family (and country) is in has caused her to be a more temperamental character. Like Camb said, a person that is bad wouldn’t take in a Jewish person in this time period.
    5.Who is in charge of the family?
    I think that up to this point in the novel Rosa has demonstrated that she is in charge of the family. She is the one who is mostly bringing in the money, and she tells Hans and Liesel what and when to do things. For the most part Hans and Liesel respect her authority.
    6.How does Max fit into the Hubermann “family”?
    I think that Max is cared for as one of the family. Even though at the beginning the relationship between Max and the Hubermann’s and Liesel is a little bit awkward, it slowly is beginning to grow. The Hubermann’s are risking their lives for him, which at the beginning starts off as a favor, but I think it will develop into being because they care about him and he forms a part of their household.

    March 6, 2011 at 3:02 pm

  9. JohnL

    •How does Hans gain Liesel’s love and trust?

    Hans teaches Liesel how to read and gave her presents for christmas. He treats her like she is his daughter.

    •Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?

    Yes, because Liesel’s Foster parents do show her love just in different ways. Ever since Hans JR left they did not care so much when he left.

    •Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?

    Rosa’s personality is not similar to Hans’ and that is why Rosa does not demonstrate the same warmth with Liesel. I think Rosa grew up
    the same way as she is taking care of Liesel.

    •Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?

    Rosa isn’t always rude and bitter to Max. She did not complain about him staying and instead, she helped him. She really is a kind-hearted person and the only time she would express her bitterness when she wants to seize control.

    •Who is in charge of the family?

    Rosa is in charge of the family because she is always keeping track on what is needed and orders Hans and Liesel what to do. Unlike Hans, who does not contribute much to the needs of the family. He is already under suspicion of the NAZI party.

    •How does Max fit into the Hubermann “family”?

    Max felt guilty about putting the Hubermanns in danger, but that is not an issue with the family. He builds up good relationship with each member especially Liesel. He is like everyone else, concealing themselves from the NAZIs.

    March 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm

  10. Jade

    1. Hans gains Liesel’s love and trust in my opinion when he starts to go into her room at night and starts teaching her to read. She is having nightmares at this point and by Hans going in at the same time every night and comforting her, it helps Liesel trust him.

    2. Liesel is a substitute child for Hans but he doesn’t treat her any different. She recieves the same warmth and love any of his other children would.

    3. I think it’s difficult for Rosa to show the same warmth towards Liesel because in a way I think Rosa has become jealous of the relationship Liesel and Hans have. Deep down you can tell she cares about Liesel, I guess with all the stress of having no money and hiding a jew in their home she doesnt have time to show affection towards Liesel.

    4. I believe that there is a more caring side to Rosa. I think she just puts up a front to protect her family. Hans is more of the laid back kind of guy which doesnt get them very far because he doesnt have a job. I think Rosa just sees things from more of a serious perspective verse a fun one.

    5. Hans is in charge of the family, in my opinion. He makes desicions, takes risks (hiding max), and is straight to the point. However, I also think Rosa trys to be the leader of the family because she almost always disagrees with what Hans says.

    6. I agree with cams point, how Max was in a way accepted into the family the same way Liesel was. At first he isn’t really “liked” you could say in the family mainly by Rosa until he builds a strong relationship with Liesel. This is where you see that he is part of the family.

    March 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm

  11. Jonascoyes

    •How does Hans gain Liesel’s love and trust?
    •Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?
    •Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?
    •Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?
    •Who is in charge of the family?
    •How does Max fit into the Hubermann “family”?

    I think liesel didnt need to gain Han’s love it seemed unconditonal at the start. From the very begining they had a connection because he was the only one that got the book theif out of the car. She gains the family’s trust by not telling anyone about Max for the entire novel so far.
    I don’t think she is a replacment, but i think she is a nice relief to have compared to her Nazi son and arrant daughter.
    I think Rosa does demenstrate

    March 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm

  12. Jonascoyes

    continued/

    love to leisel , she just show it by swearing at her, but deep down she does love leisel and shows this when leisel says it was her fault the mayor ended the laundry pickup and Rosa denys it to keep leisel happy.

    Rosa would love to think she is the leader of the family BUT Hans is the true leader because in the end what he says happens.

    Max would fit in perfectly, but he cannot get the opportunity too because he needs to be hidden in the basement. He loves to read and write which fits into the family perfectly, and also he hates hittler, very common in the family.

    March 6, 2011 at 5:21 pm

  13. Jack Jang

    1) Hans’ way of talking and his warmth attitude make liesel to love and trust him. He is also a guy who knows what she wants and what she doesn’t want. For example, he was a first guy who find out the book called “grave yard mannual”. He cleaned out the mess on the bed and then read the book for her although he was a slow reader. He was a base of learning for Liesel and this is how she starts reading.

    2)NO, i think. I believe that Liesel is different to Hans Jr. because his Nazi attitude was offensive to other family member and his cold talking makes Rosa and his sister shaking. However, Liesel was different. She is the loving one; Rosa who always swears at everyone also loves Liesel although she swears her everytimes.

    3)It would be difficult to show her warm love because she want to raise Liesel as a good woman with correct thinking and attitude on everything. That is why she is so mean to Liesel, but sometimes she showed some motherness behavior. For example, when Max was going to die , Liesel cried and then her mother hugged her to stop crying.Therefore i think Rosa is a good mother.

    4)Like above, She has warm personality however, she expresses in different way. I think she is shy to say thank you or soft word. Her swears and violence is one of the love she want to express.

    5) Max’s soft and kindness is fit into the Hubermann’s family.He always say sorry to hubermann family and he always give a present for Liesel like Standover man. However, he always being upset about his weak body and being jewish. I am really feel pity for Max.
    Although he is a poor character, i think he is a strong character who always think about revolution of the society. He dreams about the fighting between himself and Adolf Hitler.

    March 6, 2011 at 8:44 pm

  14. MitchJ

    Q:Is Liesel a substitute for Hans’s children, who have strayed from the family?
    A:I think that Liesel isn’t specifically a substitute for Hans’s children. The fact that Hans and Liesel have similar views makes her more than welcomed into the family, especially for Hans rather than Rosa.

    Q:Why is it so difficult for Rosa to demonstrate the same warmth toward Liesel?
    A:Rosa is the ‘bad cop’ in the disciplinary section of the house. With out Rosa’s discipline, Liesel wouldn’t have any boundaries and as much character as she dose now. Rosa is just doing her job.

    Q:Is Rosa the crude, brash, bitter woman she seems to be? Is there another side to her? If so, has that side always been there or is it just brought out on rare occasions?
    A:Yes, but, like most people, there are good and bad sides to her. She uses her crude side of her personality to get things done. but when the occasion calls for it, she can be comforting and helpful if necessary.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:31 pm

  15. daniels

    Hans gains liesels love and trust by doing something that no parent has done before in leisels life which is to be there Hans is always there for her, when she has a nightmare Hans is there. Not only is he her protector but her teacher as he well this solidifies her love for her and builds trust.
    I don’t think that leisel is a substitute for Hans children because any person that has already raised their own children is quite tired of raising kids I think this is more of an experiment to create a “good girl they in a way will try to be the best parents that they know how even better than how they were before.
    Its difficult for Rosa to demonstrate love because she is not the type of person who is warm but rather build tough and a person that knows that being tough has its good sides as she is the leader of her house. Its hard to demonstrate love because she doesn’t really know how after raising two children in a way she is ll out of love an patience.
    There is another side to Rosa a side that is more human and cares more and I think it has always been there it is only now cover up by time and scars that have been left but in one point on her life she was a sweet woman as said by her husband .
    Rosa is in charge of the family although Hans does most of the decision making he looks for Rosa’s approval at all times.

    He is their secret something that ties them all together their duty that makes them an actual family. Max is the glue but he is not a member of the family he is more of an item like a family would gather around the TV, they will gather and try to save Max

    March 6, 2011 at 10:09 pm

  16. s.yek

    I’m not going to bother answering all these questions.

    1.) Hans gains Liesels trust and love by being there for her when she has nightmares. he also teaches her to read and plays the accordian for her…

    March 6, 2011 at 10:29 pm

  17. Keara Bee

    1. Hans wins Liesel’s love and trust by firstly extending a warm helping hand to her when all she has experienced in the story is coldness and misfortune. He specially helps her during her nightmares and he didn’t repremand her for wetting the bed. Secondly, he teaches her something she desperately wants to know despite that he can not read well himself. It becomes something that they share together, which in effect becomes a building block of trust. Thirdly, when he lets Liesel roll his cigarettes for him, she realizes that this is important also since he loves cigarettes so much, becoming one more bulding block of trust.

    2. I think that because we don’t hear a lot about Hans and Rosa’s real children, we might think that Liesel is a substitute so it is hard to tell. Personally, from what I have read about Hans’s personality, I don’t think he would see her as a replacement but more as another child. He now has one more child to care for and share his knowledge with.

    3. Rosa might not be able to show Liesel kindness (in a normal way) because she doesn’t want to get too close to her if she will have to go away. She won’t want to suffer losing her “child” so speak. She might feel that it would be equally difficult for Liesel to part with her too. Another reason could that Rosa doesn’t want Liesel to become spoiled or become used to luxuries. The Hubermann’s are not well off and they live in a poor neighbourhood, so “spoiling” Liesel might make it hard for her to live in such conditions.

    4. There is definitely another side to Rosa and it comes out when Max arrives. I believe she has always been this way but it might be hard for her to always show this side so she hides it (Very well, I might add). I think she feels she has to be tough considering her lifestyle and the time that they live in. I can’t quite figure out why she holds a soft spot for Max but it could simply be because she feels bad for him. But then why didn’t she feel sorry for Liesel when she first came? Questions that I ponder…….

    5. Rosa wears the pants in the family! She appears to be the sole breadwinner because Hans doesn’t make that much when he plays the accordian. While being the worker, she is also the mother and the wife. And her personality is a very powerful and a good one for leading. Things get done when she is around.

    6.I don’t really feel like Maz is a part of the family as a whole yet but definitely with Liesel because they share so much. It seems that he just like the distant, troubled nephew who came to visit. I think he will always be that way but his friendship with Liesel will become very strong.

    March 6, 2011 at 11:30 pm

  18. 1. Hans gained Liesel’s trust by showing care for her. He shows that he cares for her by teaching her how to read and by taking care of her when she has nightmares.

    2. Liesel is not a substitute because Hans’s children still visits them.

    3. Rosa doesn’t have any difficulty in demonstrating warmth toward Liesel, being rude is just the way she express her love.

    4. About Rosa, there is another side to her and that side has always been there, its just that being rude to everyone is normal for her.

    5. I think Rosa is the one in charge of the family because she is the one who is always looking for ways to get money like doing the laundry of the wealthy people.

    6. Max doesn’t fit to the family yet because he just lives in the basement.

    March 7, 2011 at 12:21 am

  19. M Hall

    Hans gains her trust through the accordion.It makes her feel safe when he plays it. Also, Hans teaches her how to read and write, which is significant to Liesel. Hans was also there for Liesel when she had nightmares at night.

    Their own children didn’t show them love so Hans sees her as the daughter they never had

    Rosa is not really a bad person. I think she has been burned and scarred so much that she wants to make sure that it never happens again by acting like a tough person.

    Hans controls the house. Even though Rosa seems very strict, she is really quite soft but doesn’t want to show it.

    He is part of the family because his life was saved by Max’s son and he promised to help the family.

    March 7, 2011 at 12:55 am

  20. k lofter

    I think that the most important thing that Hans did to gain Liesel’s love and trust was staying with her when she had nightmares. The author makes it very clear that she saw this as an act of support and that it meant a lot to her.

    Rosa becomes a much gentler person upon Max’s arrival. I think that this side of her was always present, but hidden away for harder times. She must have realised with a Jewish person in their basement and business slipping away that Liesel had enough to deal with without her constant yelling. Maybe she seems to change so much because she feels bad for Liesel.

    Max has an interesting role in the Hubermann family. At first they seem afraid of him, but slowly they warm up to the Jewish man. Hans converses with him daily and Liesel often goes downstairs to read and talk with Max. Max’s present to Liesel, a book that he wrote, solidifies him as a part of the family. As much as Max felt selfish and wished to exile himself, he has practically become a Hubermann.

    March 7, 2011 at 7:40 am